Thread:Meta07/@comment-4833716-20131128082908/@comment-366087-20131130020315

OrbitalFacePalm9001 wrote: But there are no bureaucrats Matters not. The guidelines for Adoption clearly states that a wiki must have "no admins active for 60 days". Not "bureaucrats", *admins*. Understand, admins can run a wiki very well without 'Crats, albeit a tad less effectively.

In situations like this where there are Admins but no bureaucrats, between an Admin and a Non-admin both asking for 'Crat privileges, which do you think Staff is most likely to give the Rights too?

Additionally, the Adoptee is instructed "where there is an active community of users, Forums or Blogs need to be started so the community may discuss who they feel to be the best user to adopt the wiki". Why? Because a wiki community has the *right* to decide who should be their administration, choosing nominees and even calling for an *impeachment* of abusive Admins and even Founders (although if Staff has to remove the rights of a Founder, they still retain the label).

So, OFP, with active Admins, when Staff gets around to determining your request, it will be found that the wiki is ineligible for Adoption *except* by an Admin seeking bureaucrat rights. And even then discussions by Admins and the Community is required. Which is happening.

OFP, your stepping up with stated goal of "saving the wiki" is commendable. All the more so if the motivations behind it are sincere. *I'm* not a part of this community, so I cannot, should not, pass any judgement on you or anyone else here. I'm just offering advice based upon my experiences as both a multi-wiki admin and serial-adopter.